My mother's name was Irene, Maybe that's why I aspire to be irenic. I try.
I felt bad, when I read the other day that Eugene Peterson had said in an interview that he would do a gay wedding My negative reaction was not only that another well known influential Christian leader had announced himself to be in favor of something I, together with most of Christian thinking for two millennia, find to be not in alignment with God's word, it was that Jonathan Merritt felt compelled to ask the question. I mean, come on, Peterson is eighty-four years old. As far as I know, he's never been a culture warrior. Couldn't he have gotten a pass on this one? Of course, he could have taken a pass. Just because a question is asked it doesn't mean that an answer must be given. But again, he's not as young as he once was. Is he as sharp as he used to be? In another article released the next day, Peterson said, "When put on the spot by this particular interviewer, I said yes in the moment." He went on to say, "I would like to retract that. That’s not something I would do out of respect to the congregation, the larger church body, and the historic biblical Christian view and teaching on marriage."
One's position on gay-marriage is the "Gotcha Question" of the hour. It's obvious that Merritt's piece is not long enough to add anything to the extensive discussion that has gone on for the past five, ten years, or longer. No attempt is made in Merritt's piece to differentiate between gay in the sense of homo-erotic desire, the way Wesley Hill describes it in his book Washed and Waiting, or the way the term is commonly used in our culture as both desire and practice. One can make the point that the introduction of marriage clearly implies the latter, but was Peterson keeping up? Is that distinction recognized by everyone who reads the article? Maybe his mind is as sharp as my Uncle's pocket knife, but I know that as soon as that question came up he either had to shut it down or start juggling several balls at once. Shutting down the conversation isn't free either. Do a web search on "refuses to answer question on gay marriage," and note what comes up. It's tough. Exegetes will parse your words, culture warriors from both sides will take aim, and, this is where it really hurts, people we love may get hurt. I want to speak the truth, but I want to choose when and how. In todays omni-connected world I never who is listening/reading, and I can't assume that someone isn't.
As hard as it is, Peterson should have said, "No comment."
Better, Merritt, knowing that his interview wasn't going to contribute anything to an important discussion, and realizing that asking the question would just cause a good guy grief, should have asked no question.
The next day Peterson released the article I mentioned above. It is an attempt to put toothpaste back in the tube. You can't do it. You just make a mess trying. Today I saw on my Facebook feed that some folk couldn't resist pointing out that Peterson had white goo all over him. Jake Meador wrote a piece that appeared under the "Christianity Today" banner. Actually, I think it is a good article, except . . . Meador could have made his point without kicking a guy while he is down. I guess I'm just naive. I don't move in the circle of those who publish books and have a huge international following, but I don't see why the ethics, or the importance of kindness, mercy and restraint are any different in that world than in the world I can see as I peer out through my keyhole. At the risk of being judgmental, the only reason I see for using Peterson's name in the otherwise worthwhile article is using the name of the famous author and Bible translator, caught with his foot in his mouth and toothpaste on his shirt, would increase C.T. and Meador's reach. The condemnation of one failure should not be built on a platform of failure to show love and respect to a brother, especially one at the end of a productive life.
A wise man who has been a member of the church I pastored all my adult life said on several occasions, "The more you stir in it, the worse it smells." Guys, let's quit stirring in this one.
(For what it's worth if you type in, or click on, some of the key words in the search engine on this blog, you'll find that I've wrestled and written several times on gender issues. Since I'm not always careful to use labels there are probably more. If you find some let me know. I'll add the labels. My other reader will appreciate it.)

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Wednesday, March 26, 2014
World Vision, A Survey:
I have not had any close alliance with World Vision, so there is a lot I don't know about them. I see their ads and, from time to time, read reports of their work around the world, and was glad they were relieving suffering, and providing opportunities for those in our world who are in great need. That they do this work in the name of Christ is commendable.
The announcement that World Vision in the United States is open to employing those who profess faith in Christ, who agree to WV's basic statement of faith, and who are also legally in a homosexual marriage, hit the Christian--especially--the Evangelical community like a plane-load of sacked up rice.
Maybe Richard Stearns simply wanted to get his message out before everyone else did it for him, but if he thought that his news release announcing WV's policy change would control the spin, he certainly misjudged. Pretty much everybody that is anybody in the Evangelical world, and beyond, has weighed in on the subject. My purpose here is not to rehash the matter in my own words. More capable, not to mention quicker, writers and commentators have already explored WV's announcement. I figure it is worth the time it takes to think through the issues involved, because it is likely that there will be other similar announcements from other ministries. Those of who labor in relative obscurity have to make up our minds. This is the issue of the day. What follows is a brief list of some online comments and reactions, with brief descriptions and comments from me. Hopefully what this will do is pull some material together so you can make better use of your time.
You are welcome. :)
Richard Stearns's announcement:
Stearns's apologetic is that he and WV are seeking unity. There is much I could say, I'll leave it at, "He didn't convince me."
Here is a brief critique of the WV decision, by Jim Denison.
John Piper makes the point that WV's decision "trivializes perdition — and therefore, the cross — and . . . sets a trajectory for the demise of true compassion for the poor."
A friend of mine, who doesn't have national prominence, but who should, Norm Dietsch, commented on Piper's piece: "As to the World Vision pres. argument that the issue divides churches and families, I wonder if he has heard that even the humble Jesus had a word to say about division.. Luke 12: 49-53. We, too, care about the homosexual community-enough to stand for the truth of Scripture and to bring the good news of redemption and reconciliation for all sinners, and we recognize we are no better, but in need of the same redemption and reconciliation."
Al Mohler makes the same point John Piper makes and also warns about the slippery slope on which WV, and any other organizations who adopt similar policies now find themselves. ". . . moral revolutions are marked by events that signal major turning points in social transformation. Yesterday, [the day of the WV announcement], will be remembered as one of those days."
Warning: In spite of what some would tell us, some slopes truly are slippery, and some slick spots really are slanted.
Mark Tooley sees the bottom of the hill. He simply declares "WORLD VISION GOES LIBERAL. And of course it doesn't think it has. Tooley's prediction or statement of fait accompli is not without evidence. He refers to fairly recent history and quotes from some other conservative Evangelicals who agree.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. I really like the man. But I found Franklin Graham's announcement a bit self-serving. I don't disagree with what he says, it just kinda sounded like he was saying "OK all you righteous people who are rightly offended at what World Vision did, the line to give money through a good organization forms right here." As I say, maybe I'm being judgmental, and I continue to support Samaritan's Purse efforts but read on . . .
Matthew Lee Anderson helps us wrestle with some practical issues. What happens when organizational problems intersect with human needs? I'm not one of them, but thousands of Christians are involved in supporting a child through WV. Should they just stop. In a well-reasoned article, MLA offers some alternatives.
My list is clearly lacking a defense, other than Stearns's own, of WV's action. If I find one, or if you point one out to me, I'll include it in the next post.
Before we go, let's make sure we remember, all over the world there are people, most of them children, in desperate need. Whatever we conclude about WV's new HR policy, let's not forget them.
The announcement that World Vision in the United States is open to employing those who profess faith in Christ, who agree to WV's basic statement of faith, and who are also legally in a homosexual marriage, hit the Christian--especially--the Evangelical community like a plane-load of sacked up rice.
Maybe Richard Stearns simply wanted to get his message out before everyone else did it for him, but if he thought that his news release announcing WV's policy change would control the spin, he certainly misjudged. Pretty much everybody that is anybody in the Evangelical world, and beyond, has weighed in on the subject. My purpose here is not to rehash the matter in my own words. More capable, not to mention quicker, writers and commentators have already explored WV's announcement. I figure it is worth the time it takes to think through the issues involved, because it is likely that there will be other similar announcements from other ministries. Those of who labor in relative obscurity have to make up our minds. This is the issue of the day. What follows is a brief list of some online comments and reactions, with brief descriptions and comments from me. Hopefully what this will do is pull some material together so you can make better use of your time.
You are welcome. :)
Richard Stearns's announcement:
Stearns's apologetic is that he and WV are seeking unity. There is much I could say, I'll leave it at, "He didn't convince me."
Here is a brief critique of the WV decision, by Jim Denison.
John Piper makes the point that WV's decision "trivializes perdition — and therefore, the cross — and . . . sets a trajectory for the demise of true compassion for the poor."
A friend of mine, who doesn't have national prominence, but who should, Norm Dietsch, commented on Piper's piece: "As to the World Vision pres. argument that the issue divides churches and families, I wonder if he has heard that even the humble Jesus had a word to say about division.. Luke 12: 49-53. We, too, care about the homosexual community-enough to stand for the truth of Scripture and to bring the good news of redemption and reconciliation for all sinners, and we recognize we are no better, but in need of the same redemption and reconciliation."
Al Mohler makes the same point John Piper makes and also warns about the slippery slope on which WV, and any other organizations who adopt similar policies now find themselves. ". . . moral revolutions are marked by events that signal major turning points in social transformation. Yesterday, [the day of the WV announcement], will be remembered as one of those days."
Warning: In spite of what some would tell us, some slopes truly are slippery, and some slick spots really are slanted.
Mark Tooley sees the bottom of the hill. He simply declares "WORLD VISION GOES LIBERAL. And of course it doesn't think it has. Tooley's prediction or statement of fait accompli is not without evidence. He refers to fairly recent history and quotes from some other conservative Evangelicals who agree.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. I really like the man. But I found Franklin Graham's announcement a bit self-serving. I don't disagree with what he says, it just kinda sounded like he was saying "OK all you righteous people who are rightly offended at what World Vision did, the line to give money through a good organization forms right here." As I say, maybe I'm being judgmental, and I continue to support Samaritan's Purse efforts but read on . . .
Matthew Lee Anderson helps us wrestle with some practical issues. What happens when organizational problems intersect with human needs? I'm not one of them, but thousands of Christians are involved in supporting a child through WV. Should they just stop. In a well-reasoned article, MLA offers some alternatives.
My list is clearly lacking a defense, other than Stearns's own, of WV's action. If I find one, or if you point one out to me, I'll include it in the next post.
Before we go, let's make sure we remember, all over the world there are people, most of them children, in desperate need. Whatever we conclude about WV's new HR policy, let's not forget them.
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